I'm now in
the always dreary and often stressful process of renewing my residence card
here in France. I have to renew it every year, as this is one of the policies
for non-European residents.
A familiar
scene happened the other day when I began to search for some answers to questions
about my particular case, which requires changing the status of my residence
card.
My
first technique was to call directly the administrative office where I would submit my application (called the préfecture). I got no answer, even after
calling four different numbers, several times.
The line
answering machine, however, suggested a general number, which I called promptly.
First thing after calling, it was announced that I would pay 15 cents/minute for the call, and that my waiting time was under 2 minutes. When I finally got to talk to a person, I realized that this is a general number for all of France, and not specific to my region (where procedures can be a little different). So essentially, the person couldn't help me, transferred me by phone back to the préfecture, where the call menu would not work when I tried to select my extension.
First thing after calling, it was announced that I would pay 15 cents/minute for the call, and that my waiting time was under 2 minutes. When I finally got to talk to a person, I realized that this is a general number for all of France, and not specific to my region (where procedures can be a little different). So essentially, the person couldn't help me, transferred me by phone back to the préfecture, where the call menu would not work when I tried to select my extension.
At this
point, a mix of anxiety and frustration started going strong.
I realized I would have to actually go to the préfecture in the afternoon during the allotted information time, and wait in line to
hopefully get some answers.
When I got
there, I was first directed to a line where I had to wait, and then was given a
number and sent to a different service. It was here that I finally got to talk
to someone who was knowledgeable about resident permits. Turns out, I don't
need any special papers and my application will be like it usually is. It didn't
actually take that long to wait and get these answers, but it was a pretty
complicated process.
I should
know by now, after four years, that it would be have been better to just go to the préfecture in the beginning, rather than waste my time trying to call. But I still sometimes
hold out the hope that calling or looking on a website will be sufficient to
find the information I need.
You see, getting information in France is just downright difficult. This can be especially true for important things like household bills,
employment documents, or other administration.
To specify what I mean by difficult: information is often not always readily available or accurate on websites, customer service phone numbers are often paying numbers, etc.
To specify what I mean by difficult: information is often not always readily available or accurate on websites, customer service phone numbers are often paying numbers, etc.
On top of that,
you also need to factor in restricted hours for getting access to information.
If you do choose to call one of these paying phone numbers, they will most
likely only be in service from 8 am to 8 pm at the latest, and not on weekends.
And if you actually need to consult a real person, don't forget the standard two
hour lunch break from 12-2, and any of the various extended holidays throughout
the year.
Here is a
major cultural difference between our two countries. In the US, because of our
strong consumer culture, we expect information to be readily and easily available. We are also independent in trying to get it.
In France it's always better to talk to someone face to face. French people may feel that they have better access to more reliable information, rather than trying to figure it out for themselves. Calling by phone is the next best thing, and the worst is probably trying to figure it out yourself by looking up information on the internet or elsewhere.
In France it's always better to talk to someone face to face. French people may feel that they have better access to more reliable information, rather than trying to figure it out for themselves. Calling by phone is the next best thing, and the worst is probably trying to figure it out yourself by looking up information on the internet or elsewhere.
Face-to-face
communication is just more effective for the customer/consumer. One example
is from my first year here. I received a tax bill for someone whose name was
very similar to mine, but not me (different address, etc.). The bill was quite
expensive, and so right away I sent an official letter to the tax office,
notifying them of the mistake and including a copy of my passport to prove my
identity. They resent me the same bill 3 times, even after several letters like
this. It wasn't until I finally went to the tax office in person, with all my
documents in hand, that I was able to get rid of this unpleasant situation, and
also get a paper justifying that I had seen someone who had treated my case.
We all have
certain expectations about services and how they should run. I as an American
expect to be able to call any service number and get free information and
advice about resolving a problem. I also expect a company or organization's
website to be up-to-date, and complete with all relevant information I could
need. And my first instinct will always be to try to find information by
myself, before asking someone else about it.
The French anthropologist, Raymonde Carroll, devoted an entire chapter from her book Cultural Misunderstandings to this issue of getting information.
One quote from this chapter sums up this Franco-American difference quite nicely.
One quote from this chapter sums up this Franco-American difference quite nicely.
"In the United States, where self-sufficiency is prized, 'not to need anyone' is a very desirable goal. In French, on the other hand, the expression sounds more like a reproach."[1]
In other words, in the US we expect information to be available and we prefer to be able to find it on our own, without bothering anyone. A major cultural shift occurred for me when I realized I needed to bother people in France to survive.
I can't rely on my own resourcefulness or ability to find information because the system is not set up this way; here I am dependent on others. Letting go of the feeling of the worry of putting other people out was a big step towards integration for me. Now I don't hesitate to ask people for information, whether it be directions on the street, or for a list of documents for administrative procedures.
I can't rely on my own resourcefulness or ability to find information because the system is not set up this way; here I am dependent on others. Letting go of the feeling of the worry of putting other people out was a big step towards integration for me. Now I don't hesitate to ask people for information, whether it be directions on the street, or for a list of documents for administrative procedures.
Real adaptations are needed from any American moving here who is used to the 'customer is always right' mentality.
Sure, I could sit around and grumble (like I used to) about how things work better or more smoothly in the US. But I learned quickly that becoming angry and frustrated in these situations did nothing to help my situation, and only isolated me more. Living peacefully in another country means accepting the good and the bad.
So when the difficulty of access to information becomes a real challenge, it's at these moments I try to remember the good points of living in France (great food! beautiful scenery! wonderful culture!) that balance out the difficulties.
I am considering putting a plan into motion to move myself, my daughter and my fiancee to France and have been reading up on various parts of France and the challenges that other Americans before me have faced after taking the plunge. This post was very helpful :) thank you for sharing your experiences!
ReplyDeleteMoving from one country to another is always exciting and challenging at the same time, good for you for doing some research! I'm glad if this could be helpful in terms of cultural information. Another post that discusses a really important linguistic element of social etiquette in France:
DeleteSimple comme bonjour, http://mavieinfrance.blogspot.fr/2015/02/simple-comme-bonjour.html
Best of luck with your possible move!!